Chimney Breast Removal Forest Hill

Chimney breast removal with steel beam support in Forest Hill, the beam sized by the engineer we appoint and the work signed off by building control.

Forest Hill's Victorian houses, and the flats carved out of them, have generous rooms, but a breast in a bay-fronted front room still eats the one wall you would put a piano or a bookcase against. Take it out and that wall is yours again. We appoint the structural engineer, install the beam carrying the stack above, and do the plastering ourselves.

In Forest Hill, removing a breast on one floor typically costs £2,200 to £3,250 on a steel beam, and £3,000 to £5,000 across two floors (indicative London ranges, MyBuilder and Checkatrade, 2026). GS Renovation Ltd, a building contractor based in Potters Bar, does the work in Forest Hill.

Price guide

WorkIndicative London range
One floor, steel beam (the usual route)£2,200 to £3,250
One floor, gallows brackets where the engineer and building control accept them£1,500 to £2,500
Two floors£3,000 to £5,000

Indicative London ranges (MyBuilder and Checkatrade, 2026), not a quotation. Prices checked September 2026. Full breakdown: Chimney Breast Removal Guide.

How the job runs

  1. Free site survey at your Forest Hill address: which floors the breast runs through, a shared stack, any live flue.
  2. The engineer we appoint designs the support, and the work is registered with Lewisham Council building control or an approved inspector. On a shared wall you serve the party wall notice as building owner; we supply the drawings.
  3. The floor above is propped and the breast comes down in courses from the top; what remains sits on the support the engineer specified.
  4. Building control inspects the support before it is covered. We make good, and the completion certificate follows.
A chimney breast removed by GS Renovation, with the remaining stack propped and the brickwork exposed
The breast taken out at ground floor. Props carry the joists while the support above is formed.

Supporting the stack in Forest Hill terraces

In Forest Hill's terraces the chimney breasts sit against the party wall, with flues shared through it with the house next door. When we remove a breast at ground or first floor, the masonry stack above still needs carrying, and it must never be left hanging. We assess exactly what is above before any brickwork is cut, because a stack left unsupported is a serious hazard.

The usual solution is a steel beam on padstones, designed by the engineer to catch the retained stack; gallows brackets bolted into the party wall are used only where the engineer and building control accept them for that wall. On the taller SE23 houses where the stack runs full height and is redundant, we more often remove the whole stack and make the roof good with matching tiles and sound weatherproofing.

Housing in Forest Hill

Forest Hill has around 11,040 homes on the Council Tax list: 30% post-war, 13% interwar and 54% predate 1919, with 58% flats and 42% houses. Since most homes here are flats, a chimney breast in a flat in Forest Hill often supports the breasts in the flats above, so removal needs the freeholder's licence and designed support.

Taking a Forest Hill chimney stack off the roof needs a planning check

Removing a chimney breast inside is a building control matter, but taking the stack down above the roof changes the outside of the house. The Forest Hill conservation area was originally designated in 1976 and extended in 1994 and in 2010, so a house that stood outside it when an earlier owner altered the roof may be inside it now. Where an Article 4 direction applies, Lewisham lists alterations to the roof of a house among the changes needing planning permission. We check the current boundary and any direction for your address before the scaffold is booked.

Whether you own a house or a flat changes the answer. Lewisham's Article 4 directions in conservation areas only apply to houses in use as a single dwelling house. A flat is caught by a wider rule: Lewisham says flats or subdivided houses in conservation areas do not have permitted development rights for exterior changes. In a Forest Hill villa split into flats inside a conservation area, a stack coming down changes the exterior of the whole building, so the application, the freeholder's consent and any flues other flats still use are dealt with together. Where the stack stays and only a breast comes out, the question returns to building control.

Party wall and building control in SE23

Because Forest Hill's terraces are built tight against each other, the chimney stack almost always sits within the shared party wall. Removing the breast, and bearing a beam or fixing brackets into that wall, affects your neighbour's structure, so the work is notifiable under the Party Wall Act and you serve notice as building owner before starting. It is a routine step, and we give you the drawings the notice needs.

The structural support is notifiable under the Building Regulations, so Lewisham Council's building control inspects the brackets or beam and signs the work off; this internal work needs building control, not planning permission, though a listed home also needs listed building consent. We cap any redundant flue with ventilation to keep it dry, make good the floor and ceiling line, and replaster so there is no trace the breast was ever there.

Scaffolding and taking a stack down safely

If the stack is coming off the roof, the work happens outside as well as in, and that means scaffolding. On Forest Hill's steep streets a scaffold often has to be built off sloping ground or over a front lightwell, which takes longer to design and sometimes needs a licence from Lewisham Council where it stands on the pavement. A mobile tower is rarely enough for anything beyond the smallest stack.

The brickwork is then taken down by hand, course by course, and lowered rather than pushed in. Dropping a stack down the inside of the flue sounds quicker, but it fills the house with soot and can break through a ceiling below. Once the masonry is below roof level, the opening is framed, membraned and tiled from the scaffold while it is still standing, which is why the roofing follows straight on rather than waiting for a second visit.

  • Programme planned around party wall notice periods for a shared stack
  • Ventilated caps and airbricks to disused flues
  • Chimney breast removal on one floor or on every floor
Service areaForest Hill · SE23
Local authorityLewisham Council
Part ofSouth East London (Inner London)
Typical homesVictorian terraces, villas and converted flats
Housing stock54% built before 1919, 13% interwar, 30% post-war; 58% flats, 28% terraced, 14% semi-detached or detached
Also covered nearbyDulwich, Catford, Beckenham, Peckham and New Cross

VOA Council Tax stock of properties, March 2025, for Forest Hill West, Forest Hill East and Honor Oak. Counts rounded by the VOA.

Trusted Chimney Breast Removal in Forest Hill

Forest Hill homeowners choose GS Renovation because we treat a chimney breast as the structural job it is. You get an engineer-checked support solution, a steel beam, or gallows brackets where the engineer and building control accept them, properly fixed, the drawings for the party wall notice you serve on your neighbour, and Lewisham building control handled end to end, plus tidy working and a fully replastered finish, backed by our founder's 30+ years on the tools.

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FAQ

Frequently Asked Questions about Chimney Breast Removal Forest Hill

Which parts of a chimney breast removal project in Forest Hill cost the most?

Labour and the making good usually cost the most on a chimney breast removal project in Forest Hill, within £2,200 to £3,250 for one floor on a beam (indicative). The days on site at SE23 depend on access, condition and how many trades must follow each other: the steel under the stack is inspected before it is boxed in. GS Renovation sequences them to avoid idle time, which is the practical way to control cost.

What does removing the whole chimney stack involve on a Forest Hill house?

Scaffold, careful dismantling from the top down, and a rebuilt section of roof. On a tall SE23 house the stack is often exposed, so it is taken apart brick by brick rather than pushed over, with debris lowered rather than dropped. The opening left in the slope gets new structural timbers, continuous underlay and relaid coverings. Lead flashings and soakers are stripped out and the slating is closed cleanly.

Can I remove only the ground-floor chimney breast in my Forest Hill terrace?

Yes, as long as whatever remains above, the upper breast and the stack, is picked up by a designed support. Normally that means steel; gallows brackets are an option only where Lewisham Council's building control accepts them for that particular wall. Nothing is ever left resting on the floor joists. The breast is built into the party wall, so you serve a party structure notice on your neighbour two months or more before work.

What happens to the flue after a chimney breast is removed in Forest Hill?

It is capped at the top and ventilated, so the redundant flue does not trap moisture and stain the new plaster; a flue sealed at both ends tends to turn damp. In SE23 the stack is usually shared, and next door may still use their own flue within it, so we establish which flues are live before anything is capped. A flue your neighbour still uses must stay open and working.

Will I need paperwork from a chimney removal when I sell my Forest Hill home?

Yes. A buyer's solicitor will normally ask for the building control completion certificate from Lewisham Council, together with the neighbour's party wall consent or the surveyor's award. The certificate depends on the inspector seeing the steel or brackets before they are boxed in, which is why plastering is timed around that visit. Keep the engineer's calculations with the certificate, as they explain what is holding the stack.

Can a chimney breast come out of a Forest Hill flat?

Only with the freeholder's written consent in most leases, and usually with the owner above involved, because the breast in a converted SE23 house often continues up through their flat to the stack. If their breast stays, the section removed below must be replaced with engineered steel. As more than half of Forest Hill's homes are flats, this is an everyday situation here rather than an unusual one.

Does cutting back only part of a chimney breast in Forest Hill need approval?

Yes. Lewisham says building control approval is needed for structural alterations, including the removal or partial removal of chimney breasts. Cutting a breast back to fit a wider kitchen run or a flush wardrobe is partial removal, even though the bulk of the masonry stays. The structural engineer we appoint still designs support for what remains above, and the inspector sees that support before it is plastered over.

What if our Forest Hill house is on the national heritage list?

Find out before the breast is touched. Lewisham has around 368 nationally listed building entries, and listing protects the interior as well as the outside, so removing a breast from a listed building needs listed building consent, not only building control approval. Lewisham also requires a heritage statement for planning applications affecting listed buildings. We ask for a written view from Lewisham before designing any support, because the answer may be that the breast and its fireplace stay and the plan changes around them.

Does the chimney on a Forest Hill semi or detached house sit on a party wall?

Not necessarily. 14% of Forest Hill homes are semi-detached or detached, and on those houses a stack can rise from a flank wall that is yours alone, or from an internal wall. On a flank wall there is no neighbour's flue to trace through the breast, though the Party Wall Act can still arise from other parts of the job. The stack on a detached house can be tall and exposed, so the scaffold and roof repair are larger. We trace each flue before advising.

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